Radio New Zealand National. 2015-04-19. 00:00-23:59.

A 24-hour recording of Radio New Zealand National. The following rundown is sourced from the broadcaster’s website. Note some overseas/copyright restricted items may not appear in the supplied rundown:

19 April 2015

===12:04 AM. | All Night Programme===
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Including: 12:05 Music after Midnight; 12:30 History Repeated (RNZ); 1:05 Our Changing World (RNZ); 2:05 Spiritual Outlook (RNZ); 2:35 Hymns for Sunday 3:05 Tu, by Patricia Grace (11 of 15, RNZ); 3:30 Te Waonui a Te Manu Korihi (RNZ); 4:30 Science in Action (BBC)

===6:08 AM. | Storytime===
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Porcellus the Flying Pig, written and told by Judy Corbalis; Namouss and the Elephant, by David Somerset, told by Fiona Samuel; Grandma McGarvey Goes to the Zoo, by Jenny Hessell, told by Elizabeth McRae; Grizzly and the Bumble Bee, by Joy Cowley, told by Lorae Parry; The Great Voyage of Longa Poa, by David Somerset, told by Fiona Samuel (RNZ)

===7:08 AM. | Sunday Morning===
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A fresh attitude on current affairs, the news behind the news, documentaries including Insight, sport from the outfield, politics from the insiders, plus Mediawatch, music and The Week in Parliament

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07:10
Kristina Andersen - Student loans
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Kristina Anderson is the country's only specialist adviser on going bankrupt to clear student debt. Student debt has now passed $14 billion and Anderson, from Auckland's Tax Hub Ltd, says it's time the country confronted the issue.
Topics: money
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Tags: student loans, bankruptcy
Duration: 9'56"

07:20
Tony McNeight - Giant Poppy
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A poppy the size of a football field is being pieced together at Auckland Domain in time for ANZAC Day. Tony McNeight has been working on the project for the past year.
Topics: arts
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Tags: RSA, Anzac, poppies
Duration: 3'43"

07:24
Papua New Guinea - Calls for more autonomy grow
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The mood for more autonomy is growing among Papua New Guinea's provinces. While the call for more devolution of powers from central government to the provinces is not new, PNG's continued development struggles, mean more provinces are talking about autonomy. Radio New Zealand International's Johnny Blades reports.
Topics: Pacific
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Tags: Papua New Guinea
Duration: 6'27"

07:40
The Week In Parliament for 19 April 2015
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Second week of the 3-week adjournment sees no select committee meetings held, so we look ahead to what's in store next week, and also speak with Hansard staff about the role of Parliament's note-takers.
Topics: politics
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Tags:
Duration: 12'44"

07:47
Benoit Aubert - An Outsourced World
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'Made in China' - it's on the label of much of what we wear - but Victoria University Professor of Information Systems, Benoit Aubert, reckons that no matter what that label says, you will have no idea where that piece of clothing comes from.
Topics: business, economy
Regions:
Tags: retail, outsourcing
Duration: 7'27"

07:53
Tim Bale - The UK election
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Tim Bale, professor of politics at Queen Mary University of London and the author of 'The Conservative Party from Thatcher to Cameron', reflects on the upcoming British election.
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Tags: UK general election 2015, UK
Duration: 5'16"

08:12
Insight for 19 April 2015 - How Real Terrorism Threats in NZ?
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Brent Edwards explores the terrorist threat to NZ and asks if it's being overplayed.
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Rebecca Kitteridge is a worried woman.
Since Ms Kitteridge took on the job as director of the Security Intelligence Service 11 months ago, she tells Insight, the threat of a terrorist attack in New Zealand has risen.
Last year she reported the SIS had a watch-list of 30 to 40 people it was monitoring closely.
In typical spy speak she now says the people under watch has increased to the high end of that range, not the low end. Some are considering terrorist action in this country.
But Rebecca Kitteridge does not want to exaggerate the threat.
She says people can still go to the supermarket without worrying about the prospect of being caught up in a terrorist attack.
Ms Kitteridge says it is her job to worry so the public do not have to.
What mainly worries her is the influence of Islamic State, as it uses social media to reach out to disaffected people in the West to not just travel to Syria and Iraq to fight, but to also carry out attacks in their own countries.
"I think it's the first time that we've seen a terrorist organisation actively trying to recruit people to commit attacks internationally and that is the difference from what we see now to what we have seen before.
"So there is an active effort to recruit anybody who might be susceptible to this kind of propaganda to and to give them information on how to commit attacks too."
Islamic State uses a professionally designed and produced magazine Dabiq to get its message across.
But how serious is the threat and is anyone in the Muslim community taking note of the propaganda?
Young Muslims say they are not aware of Islamic State's social media campaign getting any traction in New Zealand.
Tayyaba Khan is the chief executive of the Change Makers Refugees Forum in Wellington.
"I know for a fact that through my work and through the work that I do with different organisations within the Muslim community, we are not aware of any such social media interaction that can be seen as threatening or concerning," Ms Khan says.
Auckland blogger Latifa Daud agrees.
"No, actually, I haven't seen anything."
Ms Daud says she has not heard anyone talking about Dabiq.
Both she and Ms Khan worry that the focus on Islamic State has made the Muslim community in New Zealand a target.
Ms Ketteridge says she has been very careful to avoid that.
"The fact that there is a very tiny group who might be categorised as Muslim... I think the most important thing to think about with these people is not what is their religion but what are they doing.
"What behaviours are they exhibiting that means that they may be a terrorist risk to this country?" she says.
Ms Khan says while the Muslim communities themselves are peaceful, there might be one or two individuals attracted by Islamic State's propaganda.
"We are extremely concerned about those who might be likely to be affected by this recruitment process and like I said I think we want to get involved because who better to get involved in changing things than the Muslim community themselves."
The SIS has been given greater powers to monitor people, particularly by being able to conduct urgent video surveillance before a warrant is issued.
Those changes were rushed through Parliament late last year, prompting widespread concern from Muslims who felt they were not consulted over powers they believe are directly aimed at them.
Ms Kitteridge says the new powers, plus extra money for the SIS to expand its activities, have helped.
But will those new powers and sending troops to Iraq make New Zealanders safer as they go about their daily business?
One security contractor, who wishes to remain anonymous, believes it is only a matter of time before there is a terrorist incident in this country.
He is appalled by security at public venues, particularly airports.
He says the main threat will come from a so-called lone wolf attack, not from some planned and coordinated terrorist plot.
No one can discount an incident of that nature, including Otago University lecturer Najibullah Lafraie, a former foreign minister for Afghanistan.
"That kind of incident, isolated but nonetheless affecting someone and then ISIS trying to find it and influence so that's possible. Hopefully that's not there but, as I said, we cannot rule it out."
But Professor Ramesh Thakur from the Australian National University says people have to keep the threat in perspective, and made reference to the 2008 terrorist attacks in India when 10 gunmen belonging to the Islamist terror group, Lashker-e-Taiba, carried out a three-day rampage in Mumbai’s main railway station, five-star hotels and a cafe killing more than 160 people.
"Think of the attention that was given to the terrorist attack on Mumbai. Of course it was a serious incident. But, as I said, in terms of people who are killed on the roads in India and in India it is pedestrians and cyclists who are killed much more than people in the cars, or any other way you look at it, in terms of the real threats to people's safety and security terrorism should rank way down in the scale."
He says Western governments have exaggerated the threat of terrorism to justify giving their spy agencies stronger powers and to win public support for military intervention in the Middle East.
Ms Ketteridge says she has no interest in exaggerating the threat.
She says her job is to worry about the unthinkable so ordinary New Zealanders do not have to worry when they visit the shopping mall.
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Topics: politics
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Tags: Islamic State (ISIS), terrorism, New Zealand's Muslim community, Islamic State
Duration: 27'32"

09:06
Mediawatch for 19 April 2015
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Further fallout from the Campbell Live outcry - and anguish over the absence of TV current affairs; media companies becoming promoters as well; Hutt Valley bluesman strikes a blow for freedom of expression; Lorde has a scrap with her sister – but it’s the story that gets beaten up.
Topics: media
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Tags: Campbell Live, Planet Key, Lorde, Don Brash
Duration: 32'43"

09:40
Laurie Benson - Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood
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In 1848 seven disenchanted young artists in London formed an avant-garde art group named the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which rejected the conventions of the art establishment and aimed to change the direction of British art. The National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne has been collecting pre-Raphaelite art since the 1880s and curator Laurie Benson talks to Wallace about staging this major exhibition - highlights include works by Dante Gabriel Rossetti and Edward Robert Hughes.
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Edward Robert HUGHES, English 1851, –, 1914, The princess out of school , (c. 1901), gouache and watercolour with scratching out, (52.0 x 95.3 cm) , National Gallery of Victoria, Melbourne, Purchased, 1901.
In 1848 seven disenchanted young artists in London formed an avant-garde art group named the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which rejected the conventions of the art establishment and aimed to change the direction of British art.
The National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne has been collecting pre-Raphaelite art since the 1880s and curator Laurie Benson talks to Wallace about staging a major exhibition – highlights include works by Dante Gabriel Rossetti and Edward Robert Hughes.
Gallery: work by the Pre-Raphaelites
Topics: history, arts
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Tags: Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, pre-Raphaelites
Duration: 17'45"

10:10
Kids Sleep Doctor - Paul Gringras
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A free app to improve children's sleep, the 'Kids Sleep Doctor' has been launched by doctors at London's Evelina Children's Hospital. Professor of children's sleep medicine Paul Gringas has worked in the fields of sleep medicine and neuro disability for over 15 years, investigating the relationship between lack of sleep and children's mental and physical development. He talks about the perils of technology before bedtime and the benefit of an afternoon nap.
Topics: health, technology
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Tags: sleep, children, napping, apps
Duration: 22'23"

10:40
Sexuality in Schools
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The University of Canterbury's College of Education has been trialling a full sexuality paper for 2 semesters, exploring issues beyond biology to include the emotional, social, intellectual and ethical aspects of sexuality. Senior course tutor Tracy Clelland and her colleagues are calling for more resources for all sex education teachers to ensure their students develop respectful attitudes and positive relationships.
Topics: education
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Tags: sexuality, sex education
Duration: 19'16"

11:07
Atul Gawande - Being Mortal
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Health science writer Dr Atul Gawande is coming to New Zealand for two events in the 2015 Auckland Writers Festival. He talks to Wallace about health care, how elderly people are treated, and where our ideas about death have gone wrong. His bestselling books include The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right, Better and, most recently, Being Mortal: Illness, Medicine, and What Matters in the End.
Topics: health, books
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Tags: ageing, death
Duration: 23'55"

11:40
Joshua Fields Millburn - Less is More
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Joshua Fields Millburn's life was turned upside-down when his mother died and his marriage failed in the same month. It made him think about what was important in his life - what he needed to keep, and what he needed to give away. Joshua got together with Ryan Nicodemus to start the website called The Minimalists - it's about getting more out of life, with a lot less.
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Joshua Fields Millburn’s life was turned upside-down when his mother died and his marriage failed in the same month.
It made him think about what was important in his life – what he needed to keep, and what he needed to give away.
Joshua got together with Ryan Nicodemus to start the website called The Minimalists it’s about getting more out of life, with a lot less, as he explains to Wallace Chapman.
Topics: life and society
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Tags: minimalism, decluttering
Duration: 22'36"

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7:08 Current Affairs
Is bankruptcy the only realistic option for some who struggle with student loans? Wallace talks to Kristina Andersen from Auckland Tax Hub. Plus: Tony McNeight and the giant poppy art installation; The Week in Parliament; VUW Professor of Information Systems, Benoit Aubert, on challenges to business and consumers in an out-sourced world; and an update on the UK general election campaign with Professor Tim Bale.

8:12 Insight
The Prime Minister has warned New Zealand is not immune to the terrorist threat posed by Islamic State. And the Security Intelligence Service director, Rebecca Kitteridge, says the service is closely monitoring 30 to 40 people, some of whom are "actively thinking of doing something in New Zealand". But the country's threat level is still low and critics say the Government is exaggerating the risk to justify sending troops to Iraq. Radio New Zealand’s political editor, Brent Edwards, investigates the seriousness of the threat and whether New Zealand is coming up with the right response.
Produced by Philippa Tolley.
8:40 Sarah Godwin – Missing
Sarah Godwin’s son, Quentin, who was 18, went missing over 20 years ago from Titirangi in West Auckland. Now Sarah is promoting a major fundraising effort in Britain to help those who have had a family member go missing. She is a Family Representative and Trustee at the UK charity Missing People which is holding the Miss for May campaign - aiming to raise funds and awareness by asking people to give up a luxury for the month to support families with missing members.
9:06 Mediawatch
Mediawatch looks at further fall-out from the Campbell Live outcry, and why media companies are now keen to become promoters of big events. Also: a Hutt Valley bluesman strikes a blow for freedom of expression, and Lorde has a scrap with her sister . . . but it’s the story that gets beaten up.
Produced and presented by Colin Peacock and Jeremy Rose.
9.40 Laurie Benson – Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood
In 1848 seven disenchanted young artists in London formed an avant-garde art group named the Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood, which rejected the conventions of the art establishment and aimed to change the direction of British art. The National Gallery of Victoria in Melbourne has been collecting pre-Raphaelite art since the 1880s and curator Laurie Benson talks to Wallace about staging this major exhibition – highlights include works by Dante Gabriel Rossetti and Edward Robert Hughes.
Medieval Moderns: The Pre-Raphaelite Brotherhood will be on display at the National Gallery of Victoria International to July 12.

10:06: Kids Sleep Doctor – Paul Gringras
A free app to improve children's sleep, the 'Kids Sleep Doctor' has been launched by doctors at London’s Evelina Children's Hospital. Professor of children's sleep medicine Paul Gringas has worked in the fields of sleep medicine and neuro disability for over 15 years, investigating the relationship between lack of sleep and children's mental and physical development. He talks about the perils of technology before bedtime and the benefit of an afternoon nap.

10:40 Sexuality in Schools
The University of Canterbury’s College of Education has been trialling a full sexuality paper for 2 semesters, exploring issues beyond biology to include the emotional, social, intellectual and ethical aspects of sexuality. Senior course tutor Tracy Clelland and her colleagues are calling for more resources for all sex education teachers to ensure their students develop respectful attitudes and positive relationships.
11:05 Atul Gawande – Being Mortal
Health science writer Dr Atul Gawande is coming to New Zealand for two events in the 2015 Auckland Writers Festival. He talks to Wallace about health care, how elderly people are treated, and where our ideas about death have gone wrong. His bestselling books include The Checklist Manifesto: How to Get Things Right, Better and, most recently, Being Mortal: Illness, Medicine, and What Matters in the End.
11:35 Joshua Fields Millburn – Less is More
Joshua Fields Millburn’s life was turned upside-down when his mother died and his marriage failed in the same month. It made him think about what was important in his life – what he needed to keep, and what he needed to give away. Joshua got together with Ryan Nicodemus to start the website called The Minimalists – it’s about getting more out of life, with a lot less.

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Artist: Grace Jones

Song: Walking in the Rain

Composer: Harry Vanda/George Young
Album: Nightclubbling
Label: Island Records
Broadcast Time 8:38am

Artist:Ladyhawke
Song:Paris is Burning
Composer: Phillipa Brown/Pascal Gabriel
Album: Ladyhawke
Label: Modular Recordings 2000
Broadcast Time: 9:39am

Artist: Ray Lamontagne
Song: How Come
Composer: Ray Lamontagne
Album:Trouble
Label:RCA Records
Broadcast time: 10:38

Artist:Steely Dan
Song: Glamour Profession
Composer: Walter Becker/Donald Fagen
Album: Gaucho
Label: MCA Records
Broadcast Time: 11:31am

===12:12 PM. | Spectrum===
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War Horses
Spectrum joins the Birch Hill Ride, to mark the role of horses in our military history. As ANZAC Day approaches and we remember our fallen soldiers, North Canterbury riding enthusiasts have not forgotten our equine allies. Several hundred people rode, walked or climbed aboard covered wagons for the trip to Birch Hill Cemetery where a plaque erected in 1937 pays tribute to the horses killed in the Great War. (RNZ)

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12:05
War Horses
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Spectrum joins the Birch Hill Ride, to mark the role of horses in our military history. As ANZAC Day approaches and we remember our fallen soldiers, North Canterbury riding enthusiasts have not forgotten our equine allies. Several hundred people rode, walked or climbed aboard covered wagons for the trip to Birch Hill Cemetery where a plaque erected in 1937 pays tribute to the horses killed in the Great War.
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Thereza Rosanowski, organiser of the Birch Hill Ride.
A dream come true.

Gallery: Birch Hill Ride
It may have been months of work but North Canterbury mother, Thereza Rosanowski, says it was "a dream come true" to organise the Birch Hill Ride which marked the 100th anniversary of horses leaving New Zealand for World War 1.
10,000 horses left the country to serve in World War One but just four returned, with the others either killed or left with the Egyptians or the British Army.

Nicci McClintoch riding in pink and two friends, Mark and Amanda Saville, from the Okuku Western Riders club.
In 1937 Lt Col EB Millton of Birch Hill Station in North Canterbury, commissioned a stone monument for the station's cemetery with a plaque dedicated to the 10 farm workers who left to join the war effort.

Malcolm Brady (left) and Graeme Barber from the Canterbury Branch of the Antique Historical Arms Association. Their private collections of memorabilia lend an authenticity to such events.
But a second plaque paid homage to the horses of the 8th Regiment NZMR who died in the Great War.

Kate O’Connor with her children Ella and Lachlan. Lachlan is wearing his great granddad’s medals. Clydesdales representing the Canterbury Clydesdale Club.
In the lead up to ANZAC Day, several hundred people mounted their own horses or travelled by covered wagon over farmland to the now public Birch Hill Cemetery to pay their respects.

Descendents of the men from Birch Hill who went to war.

Topics: history
Regions: Canterbury
Tags: horses, mass ride, New Zealand military history, WW1
Duration: 25'31"

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===12:40 PM. | Standing Room Only===
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It's an 'all access pass' to what's happening in the worlds of arts and entertainment, including: 3:04 The Drama Hour

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12:43
Sally Stockwell's Weightless
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Actor turned singer/songwriter Sally Stockwell called on the talents of her brother, musician and music producer Ben when she started work on her first album. But when he died while they were working on the jazz/cabaret influenced album, Sally wrote several new songs for it as a tribute to him. That includes the title track, Weightless, based on a poem Sally wrote soon after Ben's death. Sally's been acting for more than a decade with a CV filled with theatre and TV roles, including Agent Anna, Nothing Trivial, Outrageous Fortune and Shortland Street.
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Actor turned singer/songwriter Sally Stockwell called on the talents of her brother, musician and music producer Ben when she started work on her first album. But when he died while they were working on the jazz/cabaret influenced album, Sally wrote several new songs for it as a tribute to him. That includes the title track, Weightless, based on a poem Sally wrote soon after Ben's death. Sally's been acting for more than a decade with a CV filled with theatre and TV roles, including Agent Anna, Nothing Trivial, Outrageous Fortune and Shortland Street.
Topics: arts, music
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Tags: poetry
Duration: 10'51"

12:50
Te Pou Whare
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In the 1980s and 90s Wellington's Taki Rua theatre showed the value of having a theatre space showcasing Maori live performance. It's been a long wait for a replacement venue after the theatre closed in 1998. The new space is based not in the capital but in Auckland. Te Pou Whare has just opened in New Lynn, though fundraising for the ambitious project is ongoing. Ruia Taitea Creative which has driven the venture was formed just a few months ago, one of its founders Tainui Tukiwaho talks about the project.
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Photos by Morag Carter
In the 1980s and 90s Wellington's Taki Rua theatre showed the value of having a theatre space showcasing Māori live performance. It's been a long wait for a replacement venue after the theatre closed in 1998. The new space is based not in the capital but in Auckland. Te Pou Whare has just opened in New Lynn, though fundraising for the ambitious project is ongoing. Ruia Taitea Creative which has driven the venture was formed just a few months ago, one of its founders Tainui Tukiwaho talks about the project.
Topics: arts, te ao Maori
Regions: Auckland Region
Tags: theatre
Duration: 7'08"

13:30
Moodbank
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A new bank in Auckland has just opened where how you feel is more important than how much you have. Moodbank in Wynyard Quarter is an art project-slash-ATM where you can deposit your mood, not your money. Artist Vanessa Crowe, one of the team behind this art project, explains to Justin Gregory how it grew out of an idea that began in Wellington.
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Images courtesy Vanessa Crowe
A bank in Auckland has opened where how you feel is more important than how much you have. moodbank in Wynyard Quarter is an art project-slash-ATM where you can deposit your mood, not your money.
Artist Vanessa Crowe, one of the team behind this art project, explains to Justin Gregory how it grew out of an idea that began in Wellington.

The moodbank team
Topics: arts
Regions: Auckland Region
Tags: mood
Duration: 12'10"

13:48
Jason Wright
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Sound artist and sound designer Jason Wright can put his hand to pretty much anything in his chosen field. You can hear his work on stage, in art galleries and in other spaces. He works across sonic arts, composition, installation and live performance. His latest gig is designing sound for a show called Triumphs and Other Alternatives for the Muscle Mouth company - they were behind the dance show Age at last year's New Zealand Festival. Both shows see Jason working with high profile expat choreographer Ross McCormack. Triumphs and Other Alternatives premieres at the Hannah Playhouse in Wellington on the 22nd of April. There will be an accompanying exhibition at Enjoy Gallery in the Capital opening on April the 28th.
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Sound artist and sound designer Jason Wright can put his hand to pretty much anything in his chosen field. You can hear his work on stage, in art galleries and in other spaces. He works across sonic arts, composition, installation and live performance. His latest gig is designing sound for a show called Triumphs and Other Alternatives for the Muscle Mouth company - they were behind the dance show Age at last year's New Zealand Festival. Both shows see Jason working with high profile expat choreographer Ross McCormack. Triumphs and Other Alternatives premieres at the Hannah Playhouse in Wellington on the 22nd of April. There will be an accompanying exhibition at Enjoy Gallery in the Capital opening on April the 28th.
Topics: arts
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Tags: sound design, sonic arts, theatre
Duration: 8'47"

14:24
Emily Perkins' First Play
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Novelist Emily Perkins has penned her first play. She's updated Henrik Ibsen's A Doll's House and set it in contemporary New Zealand. This new version will premiere at the end of the month in a production by the Auckland Theatre Company. Of course any other changes she might have made to the text will have to remain a mystery until opening night. Justin Gregory asked Emily and director Colin McColl why they felt the need to rewrite a classic.
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Emily Perkins and Colin McColl - Images courtesy of Auckland Theatre Company
Novelist Emily Perkins has penned her first play. She’s updated Henrik Ibsen’s A Doll’s House and set it in contemporary New Zealand. This new version will premiere at the end of the month in a production by the Auckland Theatre Company. Of course any other changes she might have made to the text will have to remain a mystery until opening night. Justin Gregory asked Emily and director Colin McColl why they felt the need to rewrite a classic.
Topics: arts
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Tags: theatre, Ibsen, Emily Perkins
Duration: 10'23"

14:40
Rich Man Road
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Ann Glamuzina has drawn on her Dalmatian family history for her debut novel, Rich Man Road. The former lawyer is based in Auckland but still has extended family living in Croatia. In the novel we hear from an elderly Dalmatian nun about her early life and a misunderstanding that impacts on her life for many years. The other narrator is a young Samoan nun who was sent to New Zealand by her family, believing she would have a better life here. Rich Man Road is published by Eunoia.
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Ann Glamuzina has drawn on her Dalmatian family history for her debut novel, Rich Man Road. The former lawyer is based in Auckland but still has extended family living in Croatia. In the novel we hear from an elderly Dalmatian nun about her early life and a misunderstanding that impacts on her life for many years. The other narrator is a young Samoan nun who was sent to New Zealand by her family, believing she would have a better life here. Rich Man Road is published by Eunoia.
Topics: arts, books
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Tags: Samoa, Croatia
Duration: 11'58"

14:49
Gallipoli Remembered
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Artist Stanley Palmer has a personal connection to the Gallipoli campaign of 100 years ago. His father and uncle both served in the campaign, and Stanley went to Gallipolli last year with other New Zealand and Australian artists, filmmakers and historians involved creating a touring exhibition. Stanley's just back from the opening of an ANZAC exhibition in Sydney, in time to open a solo show at the Solander gallery of paintings and monoprints based on his travels to Gallipoli. Stanley Palmer will give an artist talk on Thursday 23 April 12 - 12.45pm at Solander in Wellington.
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Artist Stanley Palmer has a personal connection to the Gallipoli campaign of 100 years ago. His father and uncle both served in the campaign, and Stanley went to Gallipolli last year with other New Zealand and Australian artists, filmmakers and historians involved creating a touring exhibition. Stanley's just back from the opening of an ANZAC exhibition in Sydney, in time to open a solo show at the Solander gallery of paintings and monoprints based on his travels to Gallipoli. Stanley Palmer will give an artist talk on Thursday 23 April 12 - 12.45pm at Solander in Wellington.
Topics: arts
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Tags: Gallipoli, Anzac, WW1, painting, Stanley Palmer
Duration: 8'38"

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12:39 Moodbank
A new bank in Auckland has just opened where how you feel is more important than how much you have. Moodbank in Wynyard Quarter is an art project-slash-ATM where you can deposit your mood, not your money. Artist Vanessa Crowe, one of the team behind this art project, explains to Justin Gregory how it grew out of an idea that began in Wellington.

Images courtesy Vanessa Crowe
12:47 Te Pou Whare
In the 1980s and 90s Wellington's Taki Rua theatre showed the value of having a theatre space showcasing Māori live performance. It's been a long wait for a replacement venue after the theatre closed in 1998. The new space is based not in the capital but in Auckland. Te Pou Whare has just opened in New Lynn, though fundraising for the ambitious project is ongoing. Ruia Taitea Creative which has driven the venture was formed just a few months ago, one of its founders Tainui Tukiwaho talks about the project.

Photos by Morag Carter
1:10 At the Movies with Simon Morris
Simon Morris looks at the come-back of the female-friendly film, including Samba, starring Charlotte Gainsburg, Woman In Gold, starring Dame Helen Mirren, and Nicholas Sparks’ romance, The Longest Ride, starring up-and-comer Britt Robertson.
1:34 Sally Stockwell's Weightless
Actor turned singer/songwriter Sally Stockwell called on the talents of her brother, musician and music producer Ben when she started work on her first album. But when he died while they were working on the jazz/cabaret influenced album, Sally wrote several new songs for it as a tribute to him. That includes the title track, Weightless, based on a poem Sally wrote soon after Ben's death. Sally's been acting for more than a decade with a CV filled with theatre and TV roles, including Agent Anna, Nothing Trivial, Outrageous Fortune and Shortland Street.
1:47 Jason Wright
Sound artist and sound designer Jason Wright can put his hand to pretty much anything in his chosen field. You can hear his work on stage, in art galleries and in other spaces. He works across sonic arts, composition, installation and live performance. His latest gig is designing sound for a show called Triumphs and Other Alternatives for the Muscle Mouth company - they were behind the dance show Age at last year's New Zealand Festival. Both shows see Jason working with high profile expat choreographer Ross McCormack. Triumphs and Other Alternatives premieres at the Hannah Playhouse in Wellington on the 22nd of April. There will be an accompanying exhibition at Enjoy Gallery in the Capital opening on April the 28th.

2:05 The Laugh Track
Comedian and Dentist, Sam Smith who’s appearing at the NZ International Comedy Festival.

2:26 Emily Perkins' First Play
Novelist Emily Perkins has penned her first play. She’s updated Henrik Ibsen’s A Doll’s House and set it in contemporary New Zealand. This new version will premiere at the end of the month in a production by the Auckland Theatre Company. Of course any other changes she might have made to the text will have to remain a mystery until opening night. Justin Gregory asked Emily and director Colin McColl why they felt the need to rewrite a classic.

Emily Perkins and Colin McColl - Images courtesy of Auckland Theatre Company
2:38 Author Interview
Ann Glamuzina has drawn on her Dalmatian family history for her debut novel, Rich Man Road. The former lawyer is based in Auckland but still has extended family living in Croatia. In the novel we hear from an elderly Dalmatian nun about her early life and a misunderstanding that impacts on her life for many years. The other narrator is a young Samoan nun who was sent to New Zealand by her family, believing she would have a better life here. Rich Man Road is published by Eunoia.

2:49 Gallipoli Remembered
Artist Stanley Palmer has a personal connection to the Gallipoli campaign of 100 years ago. His father and uncle both served in the campaign, and Stanley went to Gallipolli last year with other New Zealand and Australian artists, filmmakers and historians involved creating a touring exhibition. Stanley's just back from the opening of an ANZAC exhibition in Sydney, in time to open a solo show at the Solander gallery of paintings and monoprints based on his travels to Gallipoli. Stanley Palmer will give an artist talk on Thursday 23 April 12 - 12.45pm at Solander in Wellington.

3:05 The Drama Hour
Part Four of Shakespeare's Women and Part Two of The War Artist by Carl Nixon.

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Making Sense of Carnage
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In 1915 the British and French allies wanted to seize the Dardanelle Straits to allow their navies to get to Constantinople and defeat the Turks. Their attempt was a disaster.
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"Sunday 25th April 1915, Gallipoli
Came ashore in destroyer Beagle . Wounded everywhere. Sights appalling. I did what I could. It seemed so little. Poor fellow with eyes protruding. Another with bullet in throat. Men bleeding to death. Oh, what sights”.

– From the Dairy of the Reverend John Aldred Luxford, Methodist Chaplain NZEF
Diary and photo of John Luxford supplied by Bob Luxford.
An historian who’s studying the role of the churches in the First World War says they developed a ‘war rhetoric’ in an attempt to make sense of the carnage. Dr Allan Davidson is Honorary Research Fellow at both St John’s Theological College and the University of Auckland.
Allan is studying the work of some of the almost 140 chaplains who served overseas in World War One alongside the troops, and plans to write a book about them.

Left: Poppy preserved from Gallipoli, Middle: Dr Allan Davidson. Photos: RNZ David Steemson. Right: Inscription on New Zealand Memorial at Gallipoli. Photo: Margaret Davidson.
He’s had career-long interest in the history of Christianity and its impact on New Zealand Society. He’s also been studying religion and the First World War, and the role played by the chaplains, who, as army officers, were sent to the war fronts. Their job was to conduct Christian services and to bury the dead. But as part of their pastoral duties they also had to boost the morale of the living.

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Writing in an article “Centenary Reflections on Gallipoli” published in this month’s Tui Motu Interislands Catholic magazine, Dr Davidson says; ”the narrative of Gallipoli is woven into New Zealand’s national mythology. From the very beginning it was embroidered by war rhetoric which mixed duty to God, King and Country with the language of sacrifice, honour, courage, bravery, patriotism and heroism”.
He says the churches themselves deified duty. They saw the war as a good cause, and some ministers even thought of themselves as recruiting sergeants operating from the pulpit. He thinks the churches hoped the war would bring about their revival. But it actually turned some soldiers off institutionalised religion.
60-year-old Methodist, the Reverend John Luxford, was one of six Chaplains who landed at Gallipoli with the New Zealand troops on the 25th April 1915. Three days earlier in his diary he’d written, “I shall be glad to get to the real work”. But when he got there, he was appalled.
"Sunday April 25, 1915
Poor Col. Stuart is dead. We have lost heavily. I must leave the scenes for future description. Saw several dead. Many wounded and left, and dead are not yet brought in. Shrapnel bursting all around us, men hit within three yards of me. The Turks were on the shore when the Australians landed. They misled our troops by running away thereby drawing on our men who were caught by superior numbers. We had no Artillery with which to cover our men and no reinforcements to help them.
“Monday April 26, 1915
I am tired today. Could not get a good night’s sleep. Helped our wounded this morning. With Father McMenamin, I buried nine poor fellows. We had to shelter for an hour. The guns were booming. Then as we read the service we had to kneel down in the dug grave. It was terrible. Six were buried in one grave and three in another. Buried nine more men… four from boats where they had been killed in trying to land under fire.”
– From John Luxford’s diary.

Anzac Cove beach, photo: Margaret Davidson
Allan Davidson says chaplains at Gallipoli suffered from the fighting along with the soldiers. Presbyterian William Grant was killed; Father Patrick Dore was shot in the spine at Gallipoli and died on the operating table back in New Zealand in 1918. Father Joseph McMenamin had to be evacuated ill and was later killed in France while conducting a funeral. On the 8th August 1915 at Chunuk Bair, John Luxford was shot in the leg, which had to be amputated. At that point his diary ends.
Again in his Gallipoli Centenary Reflections, Davidson says “for a chaplain, dealing with the overwhelming pastoral demands, brought on by what Luxford called an ‘Inferno’, was all consuming. For the generals and politicians it was hard to admit that they had made strategic blunders and launched their men into a futile campaign”.
He says soldiers came back to New Zealand after having seen the terrible reality of war. Many came with injuries themselves, and found a society where the war mythology was already in place. It was hard for them to speak of what they had been through.
The Reverend John Luxford spent the remainder of the First World War as the senior Methodist chaplain at “New Zealand General Hospital Number Two” at Walton of Thames in England, where according to one writer he was held in awe by those who’d not been to Gallipoli. Luxford returned to New Zealand in 1919 but died from the effects of his service in 1921.
Photo: John Luxford's grave at Waikaraka Cemetery, Onehunga
Topics: spiritual practices, history
Regions: Auckland Region
Tags: God, WW1, Gallipoli, Chunuk Bair, chaplains, war rhetoric, Aegean, Russia, Turkey, Woodbine Willy, Christianity, Anzac
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18:06
Whakatauāki mo 19 o Paenga-whāwhā (April) 2015
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Ruia taitea, Ruia Taitea, Kia Tu ko Taikaha anake. Strip away the Taitea, the Sap. The heart is Taikaha. This week's whakatauaki is explained by Ngataiharuru Taepa no Te AtiAwa, Te Arawa.
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Ruia taitea, Ruia Taitea, Kia Tu ko Taikaha anake. Strip away the Taitea, the Sap. The heart is Taikaha.

This week's whakatauaki is explained by Ngataiharuru Taepa no Te AtiAwa, Te Arawa.
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Duration: 2'33"

18:08
The Road to The Rock - Piimio Mei
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Piimio Mei was turned down twice to attend The New Zealand School of Dance in Wellington, but that didn't deter the 17 year old from pursuing her dream of becoming a Ballerina. A late starter to Ballet at 12 years old, Piimio was taught a few techniques from her mother and then moved into formal lessons at Kapiti Dance Centre with Alison Pond. It was after watching the movie First Position that she learned about The Rock, a dance school in Philadelphia, United States. Piimio, who practises on the hard wooden floor of the kitchen at her home in Wellington, decided to send in an audition tape to attend their summer school Ballet Intensive programme, she learned in March she was accepted. Aside from studying engineering at Weltech, she is busy fundraising for the school fees, travel and accommodation costs. A Marae in Newlands, Wellington is hosting a hangi fundraiser this weekend.
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Piimio Mei was turned down twice to attend The New Zealand School of Dance in Wellington, but that didn't deter the 17 year old from pursuing her dream of becoming a Ballerina.
A late starter to Ballet at 12 years old, Piimio was taught a few techniques from her mother and then moved into formal lessons at Kapiti Dance Centre with Alison Pond. It was after watching the movie First Position that she learned about The Rock, a dance school in Philladelphia, United States.
Piimio, who practises on the hard wooden floor of the kitchen at her home in Wellington, decided to send in an audition tape to attend their summer school Ballet Intensive programme, she learned in March she was accepted.
Aside from studying engineering at Weltech, she is busy fundraising for the school fees, travel and accomodation costs. A marae in Newlands, Wellington is hosting a hangi fundraiser this weekend.
My dream is to come back to New Zealand and start up a school and do outreach programmes for Māori and Pasifica and create that connection. That's something I think we are lacking in New Zealand. I've been through a lot in my life, and the scariest thing I have ever done was start Ballet...there are so many factors, the money is a factor and how you look is a factor...the social barriers felt like an obstacle for me. I feel like it should be for everyone.

Piimio Mei nō Ngāti Kahungunu, Tūhoe.
Topics: arts, te ao Maori
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Duration: 8'01"

18:17
Māori Men of World War I - Te Papa Curator Puawai Cairns
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Justine Murray visits Te Papa curator Puawai Cairns at her home and over a cup of tea, she shares a couple of photos from her research, she unravels the story of Lieutenant George Gardiner, who not only fought for his country, but made a name for himself as a rugby league player and a wrestler who went under the moniker Hori Tiki.
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Māori Contingent, No 1 Outpost, Gallipoli, Turkey. Read, J C Images of the Gallipoli campaign. Ref: 1/4-058101-F. Alexander Turnbull Library, Wellington, New Zealand.
Te Papa curator Puawai Cairns has worked for the past two and a half years researching the Māori soldiers in the First World War.
It's a role that has taken up a big part of her life, she travelled to Gallipoli in 2013 and met up with Defence Historian and author, Ian McGibbon. Puawai blogged about her time spent trekking through the rugged terrain, and coming across human skeletal remains.
As part of the curatorial team of the exhibition Gallipoli: The Scale of our War, Puawai has spent hundreds of hours poring over newspaper articles, diaries, books by notable authors Monty Soutar, Christopher Pugsley and James Cowan and whanau accounts, to breath life into the stories of Māori men who were part of the Native Contingent.
Contact with soldiers families came in the form of social media contact too. Last year, Puawai shared a few of those stories in Forgotten Grandfathers: Māori Men of World War I, at TEDX Tauranga.
One thing that I have been very conscious of in my role as a curator for Te Papa is trying to uncover the māori stories. Māori have a very, I always call ambivalent, relationship towards World War one. In 1914 at the declaration of war, it was only 50 years after the New Zealand wars when a lot of our tribes were at war with the crown, at war with colonial forces here.
We had a lot of our land taken away, Tauranga Moana suffered that particular phenomenon. Loss of language, loss of autonomy and then fifty years later in 1914 a call came out from the Empire that all men should volunteer and serve and go overseas.
You can imagine for māori this would have brought up a whole lot of conflict, not all the tribes reacted the same. In 2014 the idea of māori being loyal to Empire is almost an anathema to how we consider our post-colonial identity.

- Puawai Cairns, Forgotten Grandfathers: Māori Men of WWI, TedX Tauranga, 2014.

George Gardiner (1894 - 1941) George Gardiner was born in Tauranga in 1894, he served in the First World War as part of the Māori contingent and in World War 2 as part of the Australian Imperial Force.
Justine Murray visits Puawai at her home and over a cup of tea, she shares a couple of photos from her research, she unravels the story of George, who not only fought for his country, but made a name for himself as a rugby league player and a wrestler who went under the moniker Hori Tiki.
Photos: Te Papa Curator Puawai Cairns at TedX Tauranga 2014 - Benjamin Parkinson. Lieutenant Gardiner - Gardiner whanau.
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Duration: 24'05"

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Ngataiharuru Taepa
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Artist Ngataiharuru Taepa talks about his tupuna (ancestors) who fought in the Land Wars, the First World War and World War II.
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Ngataiharuru Taepa is the Kaihautu Toi Maori, Toi Rauwharangi – College of Creative Arts, Massey University. He was invited to take part in World War I Remembered: A Light and Sound Show that opened on the 18 April and runs until the 25 April.
Ngatai wants the viewers of his images to feel a connection and not to think too much about its design. Ngatai has a personal connection to the stories of Māori involvement on the battlefields. Last year he was part of the contingent that travelled to Monte Cassino to commemorate the 70th anniversary of the Battle of Monte Cassino in World War II. These connections combined with mātauranga Māori, stories and narratives form the images created by Ngatai, will be light up the exterior of the Carillon.
He talks about his tupuna (ancestors) who fought in the Land Wars, the First World War and World War II.
Ngataiharuru Taepa nō Te Arawa, Te Atiawa.

'Te Tirairaka me te Rango' kowhaiwhai (fantail and the fly with flight paths) design by Ngataiharuru Taepa.

Tirairaka (fantail) by Ngataiharuru Taepa, Kaokao tukutuku design and tukutuku based on Tomb of Unknown Warrior.

Members of the Pioneer Battalion laying a road in Messiness, Belgium 1917 with Patiki - battle formation tukutuku design.
Topics: te ao Maori, arts
Regions: Wellington Region
Tags: toi, WW1
Duration: 13'12"

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Welcome Everyone - The Accessibility of Parliament
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A report into the accessibility of parliament has found many areas wanting. Now an action plan has been put into place to make the buildings and grounds and information about parliament accessible to everyone.
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Photo: Nick-D CC BA SA 3.0
Parliament is about to become more accessible.

By the end June this year a number of enhancements will be made to parliament’s buildings and grounds to make them easier for people to get around. The improvements come after an inquiry into the accessibility of parliament found it wanting. The inquiry was initiated by the Government Administration Committee.
Committee Chair, Labour’s Ruth Dyson says many of the people who made submissions felt there were barriers to their participation in New Zealand’s democracy. “Parliament’s inaccessible actually, in terms of access to information on the website, in terms of the process for people putting in submissions, in terms of physical access, in terms of participation in the public gallery. It’s wrong.”
Automatic openers will be installed on heavy doors
She says the committee heard powerful submissions from people who felt they would never go to parliament because it was just too difficult even though they were very interested in the political process and debate.
Parliamentary Services is responsible for parliament’s buildings and grounds. Its group manager of precinct services Jim Robb says work is progressing on the installation of automatic door openers for some of parliament’s heavy wooden doors.
Tactile indicators will show where a change in floor surface is imminent, talking lift technology will be installed in lifts in the Beehive and a stair-climbing wheelchair will provide another way for people with impaired mobility to get from the main entrance of parliament up the eight steps to Parliament House.

Left: The copper bollards outside parliament will become more visible in the up-grade. Right: Resting pads will be built alongside the path up to parliament so people in wheelchairs and those pushing them can have a breather.
Jim Robb says concrete landing pads will also be built beside parliament’s driveway so people using or pushing wheelchairs can stop for a breather. A handrail is to be installed on the ramped corridor leading to the parliamentary library.
Attention will also be paid to parliament’s website. During the inquiry process the Government Administration Committee heard from visually impaired people who said they are prevented from making submissions on-line because they cannot decipher the fuzzy ‘capture code’ that must be typed in in order for them to submit their comments.
Ruth Dyson says eventually she would like to see legislation available in a format that can be downloaded on software used by blind people and also information from parliament translated into easy to understand English.
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For today’s programme One in Five’s Carol Stiles has made a trip to Wellington…where parliament’s in the spotlight.
Ruth Dyson: Parliament is inaccessible, actually, in terms of access to information on the website, in terms of the process for people putting in submissions, in terms of the physical accessibility, in terms of participation in the public gallery. It’s wrong. And I thought that a committee such as ours would be a good opportunity to spur some of the debate and discussion and get some action on it.
Carol Stiles: And it has. Labour’s Ruth Dyson: is the chair of the Government Administration Committee. The six-member committee unanimously agreed an inquiry into the accessibility of parliament was justified. Public submissions were called officials concerned with ensuring parliament is accessible were also called before the committee. Ruth Dyson says there was a common theme in the submissions.
Ruth Dyson: People who felt that they just would never go to parliament, even though they were very interested in the political process and debate, because they felt it was too hard for them.
Carol Stiles: The committee has written a report, again supported unanimously by the members of three political parties represented on it. Recommendations have been made and now action is going to be taken. By June this year parliament should be a more accessible place. (Pause) Alexia Pickering has taken a particular interest in the accessibility of parliament for many years. Her late husband was a MP in the late 1950s. In those days she used crutches and struggled with access up parliament’s front steps. Later, her attention turned to the amenities.
Alexia Pickering: There were no accessible toilets, so when we got one of those put in in the Beehive on the ground floor we actually had an opening day.
(Alexia and Carol laugh)
Alexia Pickering: And I can remember Ann Hercus – she must have been Minister of Social Welfare at the time – she officially opened it. And it was a fun thing because officially opening a public toilet, an accessible toilet, well, it certainly go the publicity. And that’s what we wanted. Just to show that parliament was moving. But that was in the ‘80s, you see?
Carol Stiles: Parliamentary Services provides a range of professional, administrative and support services to members of parliament, one of its responsibilities is to administer parliament’s buildings and grounds. So Alexia Pickering then lobbied it for improved access when the entrance to parliament was being changed. She thought it was an ideal time to seamlessly link the Beehive with the older, stately Parliament House. She says she got nowhere.
Alexia Pickering: They didn’t want to know about it so I took it to Margaret Wilson who was the Speaker at the time. And of course she has an interested ‘cause of her own disability, and she was horrified to think that people coming in that main entrance, and literally that was the only entrance in parliament because they were tightening up on security so you had to come into that entrance, and the only way to get across to parliament, if she had people with disabilities meeting up with her, was to go via the lift in the Beehive to the left, then across the walkway and then into parliament proper. A much longer journey than anybody else had to take and one which was escorted, whereas a the other way a non-disabled person could actually just walk up the steps and go into the vestibule like everybody else.
Carol Stiles: Alexia says despite Margaret Wilson’s best efforts, the costs to change that entranceway were thought to be prohibitive, so that fight had to be abandoned. Almost a decade later, however, it’s one that’s been taken up again by the Government Administration Committee. Mojo Mathers from the Green Party is also on the committee and says the main entrance is still the major physical barrier to people wanting to enter parliament.
Mojo Mathers: If they’re in a wheelchair then you have to take a very different route that is complex and you can’t do that by yourself. Not being able to come into the building independently just adds a whole layer of complexity, awkwardness and difficulty into something that should be straightforward.
Alexia Pickering: It’s our seat of democracy. They’ve got to lead by example. How can we expect the community, the developers, all of those powerful people out there that build and develop to follow the rules if parliament can’t? But you see what’s happened, parliament has, but they’ve done it in such a way they’ve made it difficult for people with disabilities. It’s difficult to actually get into the main door. You think about it. If you drive in and leave your car at the back, how do you then get round to the front? And there’s no way you can push around the Bowen Street corner and up the hill. People with disabilities have to get dropped off, and the cars have to disappear. If you come in a bus, which I do, generally, it’s just jolly difficult.
Carol Stiles: They obviously meet the code, but it’s still not easy.
Alexia Pickering: The code hasn’t been updated for 22 years. And the disability sector are really making a song about that.
Carol Stiles: If you hear that you have to go to parliament or know that you have to go for a meeting what do you have to do to make it easy for yourself? Do you have to ring in advance?
Alexia Pickering: Every time a coconut. We have to plan our events like a military position. You just have to make sure that all the T’s are crossed and the I’s are dotted in terms of when you go to parliament. You just do not expect to turn up there and have everything. The staff are wonderful, but they have to deal with a poor situation. And it could have been made so much better. And you learn your own way around. Even now I’ve got my own way of getting in and out, but it’s not for everybody and therefore it’s not acceptable. Access should be open and available for everyone, not just for those that may have the right ticket or way of getting in through the back door.
Carol Stiles: Alexia says small things matter too. She’s also taken issue with the design of the reception desks at parliament.
Alexia Pickering: Let’s be fair here. It’s actually designed according to the code. It’s got a lowered section, but the lowered section is tacked on the end of the counter. So when you go in through the double doors, this is particularly in Bowen House, you face the front of the counter, not the end. So therefore nobody sees you.
Carol Stiles: ‘Cause you’re in a wheelchair and you’re lower than people who are standing up.
Alexia Pickering: It’s not only just a high counter of generally, say, 1,200. I think it’s 1,700 because they’re actually up on a plinth so that makes it even worse. And here’s this lowered section at the back. So if you were to go round the back and then sit at that lowered section it’s just a laugh because you just don’t do that. When you go into any facility the first thing you do is you go up to the front of the counter. They’ve tacked a bit on at the back. According to the building code that’s acceptable. And in my view it’s not.
Carol Stiles: What other issues have you had with parliament and its accessibility?
Alexia Pickering: There’s some very heavy doors, especially into the Select Committee room. If you want to get into the toilet the door there is absolutely impossible. So somebody has got to rush and hold it open. So generally when they have people with disabilities appearing at the Select Committee, they’ll prop that door open, which, of course, is against the fire rules. Heavy doors are a no-no when it comes to accessibility.
Ruth Dyson: Again that’s a heritage issue. This is a very old building and it’s a very beautiful building, but if you’re… Even if you’re carrying something, let alone if you have crutches to walk, a walking stick or in a wheelchair, opening the doors physically is really, really hard. They’re heavy, they don’t open automatically, and they often open the wrong way so you have to pull them towards you and then try and get around. It just doesn’t work for people. There must be some mechanism that doors can open automatically when they’re swiped, when the buttons are pushed. I don’t think that would be very expensive and it would make life a huge amount easier for everyone.
Carol Stiles: Ruth Dyson. The enquiry didn’t only look at the physical accessibility of parliament’s buildings and grounds.
Carol Stiles: As a person with a hearing impairment what else can change around here for people who can’t hear?
Moji Mathers: The biggest issue for people with hearing impairments is of course that on-demand parliament television is not captioned. So they absolutely have no way of accessing or watching members of parliament speak in the debating chamber and know what is being said while they’re watching that. This is a really huge cause of frustration for the deaf community, many of whom are very politically aware and really want to know what’s happening in parliament and to follow what’s happening. And they have to rely either on media reports of that or on going to Hansard. It just doesn’t give you the same feeling as captioning does.
Ruth Dyson: During our Select Committee process Mojo and I both got quite frustrated at hearing people from within the parliament complex who were responding to our concerns, describe to us the complexity of the solution when actually lots of other countries have solved these issues. So we pushed back quite hard on that and I think, in the end, got their understanding that we do expect to see action on these issues. We shouldn’t have a parliament in New Zealand which prides itself on being a country of inclusion and progressive. We shouldn’t have a parliament that excludes a large number of people from the everyday goings on. These things are able to be overcome. And for goodness sake, we should be taking a lead on these issues, not be trailing way behind.
Mojo Mathers: And we do. On captioning we trail way behind other countries. New Zealand captioning levels are abysmal.
Carol Stiles: Mojo Mathers says Parliamentary Services has also made a commitment to review the accessibility of parliament’s website.
Mojo Mathers: Because one of the issues that was raised time and time again by submitters was the barrier that was posed by the capture code because, of course, they couldn’t always be able to read that code to be able to put it in, and software could not read it, either.
Carol Stiles: So that’s that fuzzy code that you use to prove that you’re a legitimate user of the page.
Mojo Mathers: Yeah. Basically, the purpose of that code is to stop spamming. But what it was actually doing was blocking legitimate users from making submissions or all sorts of things. So we thought that that was too much of a barrier and it needs to be removed.
Ruth Dyson: At the moment we don’t even have our legislation available in a format that can be downloaded on software that’s used by blind people. (Laughs) We don’t even have that accessibility, let alone any translation services, if you like, into easy to understand practices. So that’s something I think our committee could pick up on – a further iteration of our accessibility of parliament work.
Mojo Mathers: I think the really significant thing is that we’re saying that the principle that parliament must be accessible and accessible to everyone and that is part of what a healthy democracy looks like. And it is essential, actually, for democracy to function fairly. And so that principle has been accepted. And now it’s working through what that means in practice and addressing progressively different areas. So it’s never a process that’s going to be over, but it’s something that we constantly have to review and be mindful of and look at bringing new areas.
Ruth Dyson: I think to have the principle of accessibility agreed to by Parliamentary Services would be a really big signal to people in New Zealand who currently feel excluded, that actually they are part of our democracy in their ability to come into parliament in the same way as everyone else does, to be able to listen to parliament in their first language, for New Zealand citizens, so that means sign language interpreting, to be able to turn on the TV, make submissions, be a functioning part of our democracy is really important and our inquiry triggered the speaker to say ‘We need to make improvements so that our parliament is accessible.’ So for me that was a really big first step. We’ve got agreement. We have a problem and now we’re going gradually, but not slowly implement the changes that need to be made. (Pause)The initial reaction we got was a little risk-averse, a little conservative. As more submissions were heard, the problems, I think, were better understood and the solutions perhaps became… Parliamentary Services felt they were more able to reach those solutions. They agreed that they would look at priorities. They understood the problems better, having heard from the submitters and as I said before, the submitters were really powerful. They were talking as New Zealand citizens that their life wasn’t complete because they didn’t feel part of our democracy and able to participate. That’s very strong.
Mojo Mathers: And the frustration they felt about that really came through. How there were bills that they wanted to engage with or make submissions on, and they couldn’t. Or they couldn’t follow the issue because the information wasn’t readily available. Or they couldn’t… There are just so many barriers. And these people wanted to be engaged but were really frustrated at the barriers that were in their way.
Carol Stiles: Were there any submissions that stood out for you, Mojo?
Mojo Mathers: Yes, there was one by a guy who was an expert in the field of accessibility. He was a wheelchair user and he just made the casual comment that he would have thought of standing for parliament, but he realized that parliament would not be able to accommodate him. This was many years ago. And I just thought ‘Wow, parliament missed out in having his intelligence and expertise as a member of parliament because of the inaccessibility of parliament. That really got to me.
Carol Stiles: Ruth Dyson says making parliament more accessible will require additional funding.
Ruth Dyson: It’s not big money, but is money that should be supplied to Parliamentary Services in order to achieve the recommendations in the report.
Mojo Mathers: My concern is that the best solution must be adopted, not just a ‘make do’ one that’s not really going to work for everyone. So far they’ve done an engineering report that’s come up with a number of solutions and there were some very expensive, but really workable solutions to real compromised solutions. And my concern there is that the funding should be available to ensure that the best outcome is achieved.
Carol Stiles: Yes, I was reading about a recessed stair lift that would be the first in New Zealand.
Mojo Mathers: I’d really like to see that outcome, and I think it would be a real talking point to have the first one in New Zealand. And I think what better place than in the centre of democracy in New Zealand, in the house of parliament?
(Fade up outside sounds of a group of people.)
Jim Robb: These little faded copper bollards you see are obviously the security protection to stop the ram raid. But one could see how even at night, with floodlighting, you could stumble over one, particularly here. So that putting some very, very ornate illumination on them at night to stop them.
Carol Stiles: Jim Robb works for Parliamentary Services. He’s overseeing the implementation of the improvements to parliament’s accessibility.
Jim Robb: We’re doing a raft of things. We’re very aware that we’re constrained by the heritage building and what we can do in some areas. So we’re putting some automatic openers on big doors that are used during tours. So people who aren’t capable of pushing open those large doors they’ll open automatically for them. Where we have changes to floor service between carpet and tile or at steps, we’re putting on things called tactile indicators, which are little adhesive domes that they use at the top of steps. Quite common around modern buildings these days. Where we have an an old historic heritage-protected lift in Parliament House, we can’t put a talking lift capability in that because of its heritage status, so we’re putting the talking lifts into the disabled lifts in the executive wing, more commonly known as the Beehive.
Ruth Dyson: At the main entrance there are eight nasty stairs, really, that go up to the main level of Parliament House. How are you getting around those accessibility problems?
Jim Robb: Those eight stairs which transition between the executive wing, Beehive area and Parliament House, are our biggest headache, to be really honest. They sit there between two massive concrete marble-encased columns that hold the whole corner of the building up. So we’re a bit loath to cut one of those columns out. We just can’t do it. There are two alternate ways today for people with a disability to get into Parliament House. They go back out through security screening outside and go in through another ground floor door. Or they can go across to the core the Beehive, go up one floor in the lift and come back across the link bridge. As a third option we are buying a device called a ‘stair-climbing wheelchair’ which are quite common for evacuation of multi-story buildings.
Carol Stiles: When you first saw the report and saw the sort of things that it recommended, did you gulp?
Jim Robb: I think, to be really honest, we were a bit surprised with the number of findings. I think it was a wonderful report to get as reality check. It’s very easy to not continually think for those who are less fully abled, and it was great that the report was done really thoroughly. It brought commonsense, sensible items to the fore, and allowed us to address them quickly and easily. The people who came in to respond to the report said parliament was in great shape relative toa lot of places they visit, but not the best shape it could be. So we’re going to pick up the recommendations and go forward, and we’ll have all this finished before 30 June this year.
Carol Stiles: What’s top of the priority list?
Jim Robb: Top of the priority list is a couple of concrete landing pads outside on the path beside the main driveway. Anyone who is arriving with a wheelchair with a person assisting them, could have a rest if they need a puff, ‘cause it is uphill. It’s getting the stair climbing wheelchair. We’re improving some frosting on the glass to be sure those who are less sighted can clearly see there’s a glass barrier or door. ‘Cause, again, we have all the frosting to build in code, we’re just doing a bit more on the recommendations of the report.
Carol Stiles: Access to the parliament library, now, that’s up a bit of a ramp, as well.
Jim Robb: Yes, it is. It’s up a ramp and it has a couple of little landing points up it so it does change height a few times. Along one side of it we’re installing a hand rail so people can hold on to that either going up or down where we notice some people aren’t’ quite so stable.
Carol Stiles: You have lots of visitors to April every year, people who come on tours. How are they catered for, the people with disabilities?
Jim Robb: The last year we had 70,000 people visit parliament. We’re well in excess of that this year. Over Christmas we had over 500 people a day. And, fascinating, the vast majority of them were New Zealanders. We thought they’d be off cruise boats, overseas tourists, but they’re Kiwis coming to have a look at their parliament. We keep two, three wheelchairs that we own in the main reception areas if someone arrives and they do want to get a wheelchair, either before a tour or during a tour.
Carol Stiles: There’s access to the gallery, too, if you’re in a wheelchair, isn’t there?
Jim Robb: There certainly is. People come in, they go up the beautiful old heritage lift, up two floors through the security scanner, the second security scanner they will have been through, and then there is a flat landing pad in the speakers gallery that is used.
Carol Stiles: Accessible parking, I understand it can be a little bit of a trek.
Jim Robb: We have to cater for two types of disabled parking. People who don’t drive themselves and get dropped off at the front door are just a breeze for us to deal with because the driver can take the car away from the front of Parliament House. People who are self-drive, we either have disabled parking out the back of the building or we can accommodate them parking at the front if we know in advance that they’re coming, ideally. We park them away from the buildings. People would say ‘Why do you do that?’ We have to cater to the threat of vehicles with explosives. Thankfully it’s never happened in New Zealand, but gosh we all watch the news every night and it happens all around the world. So parking away from the bluing meets our security threat and risk assessment.
Carol Stiles: How is the cost of these accessibility improvements being met?
Jim Robb: Well, they came as a surprise this financial year. Parliamentary Services, like all government departments, has to apply for a budget every year and we get given that budget. And that’s it. We have to live with that. So we’ve looked at this requirement and we’ve reprioritized some funding we were going to use for other items. We’ve put this accessibility improvement work at the top of our list and it’s getting funded by us just not doing some other things.
Carol Stiles: You were telling me there’s a woman in Parliamentary Services who uses a wheelchair. Does she keep you on your toes about what’s working and what’s not working around here?
Jim Robb: She does. She’s great. She willingly comes and tests things out and tries them out. And she’s very forthright in telling us what works and what doesn’t work.
Carol Stiles: So she’ll say ‘Those jolly doors on the third floor are sticking’?
Jim Robb: Yes. Or more graphically, yes.
(Jim and Carol laugh)
Carol Stiles: Jim Robb ending that report. You also heard from Alexia Pickering and MPs Mojo Mathers and Ruth Dyson.
Mojo Mathers says when she first came to parliament she was caught out by a fire alarm. She thought everyone was leaving the meeting room because the meeting had finished. But it turned out they were evacuating the building because a fire alarm was sounding. Since then she’s had two sets of flashing lights installed in her office. One is for the fire alarm and the other flashes when the division bells ring, calling MPs to the debating chamber. She says she’d like to see flashing lights installed in other parts of the parliamentary complex, too, just in case people with hearing impairments are on their own when the alarms sound.
Thanks for joining me for One in Five this week. I’m Carol Stiles. We’ll be back again next week with more on the issues and experience of disability. Until then, have a great week.

===7:35 PM. | Voices===
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Asians, Africans, indigenous Americans and more in NZ, aimed at promoting a greater understanding of our ethnic minority communities (RNZ)

===7:45 PM. | In Parliament===
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An in-depth perspective of legislation and other issues from the house (RNZ)

===8:06 PM. | Sounds Historical===
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NZ stories from the past (RNZ)

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Sounds Historical Hour One - 19 April 2015
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Sounds Historical with Jim Sullivan is the programme that gives listeners their chance to learn about the colourful, dramatic and often remarkable events and people of New Zealanad's past.
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Sounds Historical Hour Two - 19 April 2015
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Sounds Historical with Jim Sullivan is the programme that gives listeners their chance to learn about the colourful, dramatic and often remarkable events and people of New Zealand's past.
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Duration: 55'40"

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8:09 Today in New Zealand History 4’37”
On 19 April 1893 the Crown bought the Cheviot estate in north Canterbury.
8:15 Artist: Anne and Jimmy Murphy 1’26"
Song: Very Few Heartaches and Very Few Tears
Composer: n/s
Album: Polite Company
Label: Zodiac
8:17 Homework
Three mystery voices.
8:17 Old Bill's Story (part five - final) 13’35”
Read by Lance McCaskill, recorded in 1956. This story was told by an old drover to Bill Blackadder of Springs Junction who dictated it for recording by the NZBS. It tells of an 1876 cattle driving trip.
8:33 Artist: Phil Powers 2’58”
Song: White City
Composer: Powers
Album: White City
Label: Clifton Hill
8:37 Hillside Yarns 16’33”
Stories from the once-thriving Hillside Railway Workshops in Dunedin. Memories recorded in 1984 from long time employees, Bill Burns, Geoff Miles, Albie Watson, Gordon Kitto and Norm Peacock. Among other topics they talk about night school and apprenticeships and characters in the early days at Hillside.
8:53 War Report Episode 32 6’18”
Jim Warner recalls the enthusiasm for joining up in early 1915 and the lack of knowledge among young men of what was actually happening overseas. A New Zealand soldier’s poem about the flies. Story of a presentation to Dunedin nurses leaving for overseas.
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Artist: John McCormack
Song: There’s a Long Long Trail A Winding
Composer: King/Elliott
Album: Oh, It’s a Lovely War Vol 2
Label: CD41 486309
Artist: John McCormack
Song: Send Me Away with a Smile
Composer: Louis Weslyn and Alfred Piantidosi.
Album: Songs of World War One
Label: Geoentertainment 557331
9:07 As I Remember 4’47”
All the Fun of the Flicks by Lynette Elphick of Blaketown, Greymouth, read by Maggie Hedge.
9:13 Artist: Bill and Boyd 2’02”
Song: Edelweiss
Composer: Rogers
Album: Polite Company
Label: Zodiac
9:16 Homework
Three mystery voices
9:16 Clarke Isaacs remembers 28’34”
Clarke Isaacs, who retired earlier this month after 45 years as radio critic (the last in the country) for the Otago Daily Times, recalls in conversation with Jim Sullivan his lifetime of radio listening and shares some examples of programmes he remembers most strongly.
9:38 Artist Arthur Askey and Richard Murdoch
Song: The Proposal
Composer: Askey/Murdoch
Album: 78
Label: HMV C 3173
9:45 Book of the Week 13’48”
The Anzacs – An Inside View of New Zealanders at Gallipoli by Shaun Higgins and Damien Fenton. Shaun Higgins describes the collection of World War One photographs at the Auckland War Memorial Museum from which items were chosen for this publication. Penguin ISBN 9780143 572336 .

===10:12 PM. | Mediawatch===
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Critical examination and analysis of recent performance and trends in NZ's news media (RNZ)

===11:04 PM. | Hidden Treasures===
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Trevor Reekie seeks out musical gems from niche markets around the globe, re-releases, and interesting sounds from the shallow end of the bit stream (5 of 8, RNZ)

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Artist: Smokeshop
Song: Fusion at Room Temperature
Composer: Watson, Smokeshop
Album: Fusion at Room Temperature
Label: Pagan Records
Artist: Takuya Kuroda
Song: Rising Son
Composer: Takuya Kuroda
Album: Rising Son
Label: Blue Note Records
Artist: Junior Wells (and Buddy Guy)
Song: Help Me
Composer: Sonny Boy Williamson
Album: Chicago / The Blues / Today!, Vol. 1
Label: Vanguard Records
Artist: El Rego et ses Commandos
Song: Se Na Min
Composer: El Rego et ses Commandos
Album: African Scream Contest - Raw & Psychedelic Afro Sounds from Benin & Togo
Label: Analogue Africa
Artist: Jackie Bristow
Song: Fallen Youth
Composer: (unknown) arranged Jackie Bristow
Album: single release
Label: Jackie Bristow
Artist: 9bach
Song: Bwthyn Fy Nain (Real World Session Version)
Composer: Jen, Hoyland
Album: Tinc - EP
Label: Real World Records
Artist: Lead Belly
Song: Irene
Composer: Huddie Ledbetter
Album: Where Did You Sleep Last Night?
Label: Smithsonian Folkways Recordings
Artist: Bob Moses
Song: I Ain't Gonna Be The First To Cry
Composer: Howie, Vallance
Album: single
Label: Domino Records
Artist: Vieux Farka Toure
Song: Ana (Hisboyelroy's Smooth Dub)
Composer: Vieux Farka Toure
Album: Remixed: UFOs Over Bamako
Label: Modiba Productions
Artist: AfroCubism
Song: Djelimady rumba
Composer: AfroCubism
Album: AfroCubism
Label: World Circuit
Artist: Mel Parsons featuring Ron Sexsmith
Song: Don't Wait
Composer: Mel Parsons
Album: Drylands
Label: Mel Parsons – distributed by Border music
Artist: Art Blakey And The Jazz Messengers
Song: Moanin'
Composer: Bobby Timmons
Album: Moanin'
Label: Blue Note Records